If you're Wadsworth Serial Number didn't have a letter G or L at the beginning, but instead has a 5, then you're in luck! I wonder if this was a factory prototype? Please if you have any questions about the repair of your vintage Illinois watch. Not sure which serial number to use? So now in this example, you know you have a Waltham Riverside 18K gold hunting case pocket watch made in 1886. Another wrench spanner for you Brits in the toolbox is always welcomed as Gruen collectors need all the help they can get. See Figure 1 below for how to read a case's serial number that has a G or L prefix. This should be a good start though! Case serial number The Online Database for the Elgin Watch Company can tell you a great deal of information about your watch, based on just the serial number off the movement. This tells us the case was made by the American Waltham Co.
Initially started as a hobby during the 1960s, our business, officially established in 1976 by Paul and Gail Zuercher, has worked steadily to provide our customers with high quality antique and vintage pocket watches, wrist watches and watch accessories. If you can narrow your watch's date down to a year or two, then you're doing great and likely know a lot more than when you started. Owners can trace their pocket watch's history by obtaining the unique serial number featured on the movement part of the watch--not the watch case, which displays only a case serial number. While not completed, there has been significant progress this year for Gruen, Keystone, and Star manufactured cases. So to determine when your watch was manufactured, you will need to find where your serial number fits within the range of numbers. Established in 1864, the National Watch Company changed its name a decade later to Elgin National Watch Company to reflect its location in Elgin, Illinois. These techniques involve looking up a portion of the Wadsworth case serial number in a table to determine the date a Gruen case was manufactured.
That is a tough nut to swallow for someone who has spent a year or two developing a database unless they figured it out before they started. If you are interested in participating in this project, please either contact me or Wes Boger PoorDudeFromCalifornia. I will give her it back and advise her of the options, either have it repaired properly, just use it as an ornament or put it away and maybe some day it might get fixed. Looking at the table of Waltham serial numbers see example below , you can see that number 20,900,000 was made in 1917 and 21,800,000 was made in 1918 marked in red in the table below. The main benefit is doing a fun and useful project with a bunch of great people. The problem with selling these databases is that only the expression is copyrightable.
While these tables appear simple, like all Gruen research work, considerable effort was expended by these individuals to create them. Your Wadsworth Date will be later than the Introduction Date. Older news can be found in the. Serial number look-up example: Let's say you have a Waltham watch with serial number 21,607,210 as shown in the photo below. If you really aren't sure what to do, take it to one of your local jewelers and ask them to show you how to open it.
I will also need to train someone to back me up on the maintenance of the databases. The other unusual item is the serial ; 16,629,248. To accurately read the serial number, you will need to determine the best way to open the case, which varies from model, size and style. Over the next century, the firm produced more than 60 million wrist and pocket watches. The first company Directors were J. The grade of the watch is a Riverside. One of the benefits of participation is a copy of the second book of handwritten Waltham Serial Numbers with over 200 full size pages at copy and postage costs.
Code Year G0 1937-1939 G1 1939-1941 G2 1941-1942 G3 1942-1943 G4 1943-1944 G5 1944-1945 G6 1945-1946 G7 1946-1947 G8 1947-1948 G9 1948-1949 L0 1949-1950 L1 1950-1951 L2 1951-1952 L3 1952-1953 L4 1953-1954 Technique 2 - Serial Numbers that begin with the number 5 This technique was developed by Barry Cooper, co-author of the Style Number dating paper. These details can sometimes be important. You usually have to take the back off the watch case to see the movement serial number which may appear anywhere on the watch movement. Miller was a local merchant. When reading this serial number list, you should first find out the correct size of your watch and then match the serial number with the correct year of manufacture.
This is also not a big deal, just something that needs to be done. It is physically located at my home. Some of the pages will be able to provide additional information. Pocket Watch Database has an elaborated description which rather positively influences the efficiency of search engines index and hence improves positions of the domain. The Wadsworth case date is the date the watch's case was manufactured. By 1885 the company name was changed yet again to the Illinois Watch Company. Keystone then produced complete movement and case Howard watches from 1902.
The second one is a counter regulator with a 28 million serial number. The first book has 9,109 records. For more information see the web page. He holds a National Certificate in newspaper journalism from the National Council for the Training of Journalists. Damasceneing is visible on both the upper and lower plates. Elgin Watch News If you visit this website frequently, you may be interested in some of the things that have changed recently. This table is for the 405, 420 and 425 based calibers and is a guide for determining the approximate date of manufacture of a movement.
It has a 30 million serial number and has the new solid alloy balance and no indicator at all. Some American watch brands did not use a consistent series of serial numbers, but most of the big manufacturers did. And there are more movement serial numbers to be decoded as well. We offer serial number lookups for manufacturers such as Elgin, Illinois, Waltham, and. Wayne Schlitt is the only one I know of who worked it all through and decided to do it anyway. Serial Number off the movement: Important! Lay a clean, soft cloth on a firm surface and gently place the Elgin pocket watch on the material.
The description and keywords of Pocketwatchdatabase were last changed more than a year ago. The book can be purchased online via. Since your serial number falls between those two numbers, you know that your watch was made in 1917 or 1918. These two serial numbers are unrelated. It takes away one ability to find the date of a vintage Gruen. Also the names that are marked on the movement have been. Use the movement serial number.