Before even iron castings could be procured of the proper quality, they found it necessary to build and equip a foundry of their own. Cases with an obvious tab, or lip, will simply pull open. Even then I could only give you an indication of value and it really depends on what someone is willing to pay for it. For further information, examples, photos, and notes on how to wear our various styles of watches and watch accessories, please visit our. The Elgin watch company model 30, model 189, model 190-194, model 236-237, model 301-302, model 314-315, model 383-384, the 15 jewel 12 size in open face and hunters case, the 17 jewel open face.
This enables the mainspring to continue running the watch while it is being wound. Model names and numbers are used to determine railroad eligibility use and level of construction. If there is no mention of gold, than there may not be any in the case. Please remember there are two serial numbers on an Elgin watch and we are only interested in the one on the movement for initial evaluation purposes. Many have gone out of business, while others destroyed records to save space. Ferry, Mat Laflin, National watch co.
I have come into possession of an Elgin railroad pocket watch. Thanks for any help in identifying an dating this! Mr Raymond, Culver and Adams were appointed a committee on location and finally selected Elgin. Although it is always sad to see the demise of any business, it does mean that you actually own an antique Elgin and one that will over time only ever increase in value. These movements featured bi-directional, full-rotor winding, and had two automatic winding gear ratios, which were automatically engaged as the mainspring tension increased. Mosely in constructing the model watch.
The movement serial number and the case serial number often do not match on early Elgin watchers. Adams, visited New England for the purpose of engaging a corps of practical men to start the machine shop. Once you can get to grips with the Elgin pocket watch serial numbers then you start to get your first insight into its real value. Howard 'Thin Model' used its own serial number list starting. One example is the Elgin Gold watches and the key element in understanding this is age and uniqueness. A fact worthy considering is that no officer or director of Elgin Company since it's organization had ever had any previous experience in the watch manufacturing business. The fact that they have shock protection your watch appears to have the well-known Incabloc shock-protection device on the balance jewels means that they are less likely to suffer damage if accidentally subject to bumps or jars.
Outlying from these buildings is a full gas works, containing twenty four producers, supplying gas for eight pair of fifty hour power boilers and 24 dial enameling furnace fires. Adjoining are large double parlors furnished with pictures, musical instruments, a good library and the current papers and magazines of the day for the use of the boarders. In theory, this should all be transparent to everyone and there should be zero downtime. For me the uniqueness of an Elgin pocket watch is that it can form part of a highly valued collection and at the same time be worn everyday. Much of this assembly work was done at a new Elgin plant in Elgin, South Carolina. Initially started as a hobby during the 1960s, our business, officially established in 1976 by Paul and Gail Zuercher, has worked steadily to provide our customers with high quality antique and vintage pocket watches, wrist watches and watch accessories. Cases and watches were often made by different companies and each usually has its own serial number.
Many but not all watches were affected by the vision of the future. Knowing nothing about pocket watches, I did some research, which only generated more questions as to its age: 1. We're fascinated with pocket watches and some of us think that railroad watches and the time service rules are among the neatest! So if your Elgin watch has a serial number starting with a letter, you must determine the millions digits from the table below in order to determine the full serial number. Brand: Keystone Watch Case Co. Do not use the serial number from the watch case. This category can be used to note subtle differences between models and grades. The Elgin Watch company's factory began in 1866 and was demolished in 1966 after designing and manufacturing over 60 million quality timepieces.
The code was usually stamped on the back of the watch case. Inside that shield logo you should find a letter U with a letter T coming up out of the U, which indicates that it came from the Unitas factory, which made a variety of movements but was particularly known for their pocket watch movements. Look for the serial number that is engraved on the watch movement. On rare occasions there will be no serial on the bezel. Operations ceased at Star on April 30, 1982. For more information see the web page. They were all named after gentlemen who had become connected with the directory.
If the serial number is correct please let me know about the problem by. Year Serial No: Year Serial No: Year Serial No: 1852 50 1887 3,400,000 1922 24,100,000 1853 400 1888 3,800,000 1923 24,300,000 1854 1,000 1889 4,200,000 1924 24,550,000 1855 2,500 1890 4,700,000 1925 24,800,000 1856 4,000 1891 5,200,000 1926 25,200,000 1857 6,000 1892 5,800,000 1927 26,100,000 1858 10,000 1893 6,300,000 1928 26,400,000 1859 15,000 1894 6,700,000 1929 26,900,000 1860 20,000 1895 7,100,000 1930 27,100,000 1861 30,000 1896 7,450,000 1931 27,300,000 1862 45,000 1897 8,100,000 1932 27,550,000 1863 65,000 1898 8,400,000 1933 27,750,000 1864 110,000 1899 9,000,000 1934 28,100,000 1865 180,000 1900 9,500,000 1935 28,600,000 1866 260,000 1901 10,200,000 1936 29,100,000 1867 330,000 1902 11,100,000 1937 29,400,000 1868 410,000 1903 12,100,000 1938 29,750,000 1869 460,000 1904 13,500,000 1939 30,050,000 1870 500,000 1905 14,300,000 1940 30,250,000 1871 540,000 1906 14,700,000 1941 30,750,000 1872 590,000 1907 15,500,000 1942 31,050,000 1873 680,000 1908 16,400,000 1943 31,400,000 1874 730,000 1909 17,600,000 1944 31,700,000 1875 810,000 1910 17,900,000 1945 32,100,000 1876 910,000 1911 18,100,000 1946 32,350,000 1877 1,000,000 1912 18,200,000 1947 32,750,000 1878 1,150,000 1913 18,900,000 1948 33,100,000 1879 1,350,000 1914 19,500,000 1949 33,500,000 1880 1,500,000 1915 20,000,000 1950 33,560,000 1881 1,670,000 1916 20,500,000 1951 33,600,000 1882 1,835,000 1917 20,900,000 1952 33,700,000 1883 2,000,000 1918 21,800,000 1953 33,800,000 1884 2,350,000 1919 22,500,000 1954 34,100,000 1885 2,650,000 1920 23,400,000 1955 34,450,000 1886 3,000,000 1921 23,900,000 1956 34,700,000 1887 3,400,000 1922 24,100,000 1957 35,000,000 Remember to use the serial number on the movement, not the case. Chris Ozdoba has also written up a good explanation of. Not all vintage watches can be dated using the serial number. The Keystone Standard Watch Company was started by Abram Bitner with the. Early 20th century watches often feature the dynamic geometric shapes of Art Deco or the more sinuous styles of Art Nouveau.
They were placed at a low price and the odd size of these movement rendered them unpopular in the trade and their manufacture was discontinued in 1887. It is however a bit of a waiting game. When Elgin went out of the watch business in the late 1950s or early 1960s, they sold the rights to use the name on watches to one or more companies who imported Swiss movements, such as yours, bearing the Elgin name. The company prides themselves on the fact that they were the first watch company in America that ever paid a dividend to it's original stockholders. Thanks for the help Doug Doug: As noted in the Star Watch Case Co.
I believe the first number you gave 6341 has a pair of digits transposed and should be 6431 though I can't quite make it out in the photo and the second is 6445. The more items the better the deal! It may be helpful for you to read the Encyclopedia article on Watch Service and its related links, especially the one to the. Chris' explanation isn't as detailed. Not sure which serial number to use? This safeguard was developed to protect watches from having their hands jostled out of time accidentally. Information is sparse on Star case numbers. All of this achieves an equalization of the effect of gravity on the watch in various positions.